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	<title>Comments on: Social media: Tools for the post-academic job hunter</title>
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		<title>By: greyeyes</title>
		<link>http://www.leavingacademia.com/2009/09/social-media-tools-for-the-post-academic-job-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>greyeyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Junior prom date did indeed have connections in Newtown. I think it depends on what kinds of things people do, and perhaps more particularly, whether you&#039;re in an urban area. This contact from high school works for a major international corporation with many, many offices; one of which is located in my state. 

I&#039;ve been surprised at who knows people in various places - and in fact, entertained, to discover that people I went to college with, for example, ended up married to my cousin works with now. And that they met in Africa, not in either of their Hometowns or mine. 

There&#039;s no doubt a disadvantage as compared to people who know a place  inside-out because they&#039;ve been there for 20 years. At the same, there&#039;s an advantage to having moved frequently as you end up knowing at least a few people ... who then know people ... all over the place. If you haven&#039;t tried something like LinkedIn, you might be surprised at the variety of people your old friends know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junior prom date did indeed have connections in Newtown. I think it depends on what kinds of things people do, and perhaps more particularly, whether you&#8217;re in an urban area. This contact from high school works for a major international corporation with many, many offices; one of which is located in my state. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been surprised at who knows people in various places &#8211; and in fact, entertained, to discover that people I went to college with, for example, ended up married to my cousin works with now. And that they met in Africa, not in either of their Hometowns or mine. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt a disadvantage as compared to people who know a place  inside-out because they&#8217;ve been there for 20 years. At the same, there&#8217;s an advantage to having moved frequently as you end up knowing at least a few people &#8230; who then know people &#8230; all over the place. If you haven&#8217;t tried something like LinkedIn, you might be surprised at the variety of people your old friends know.</p>
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		<title>By: ASG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons I left the academic life was my exhaustion with constant cross-country moves.  One of the side effects of this is that I am now living in a city far from where I grew up.  I like my life here and don&#039;t intend on moving again, but it means that reconnecting with a &quot;junior prom date&quot; from Hometown is not very helpful when I&#039;m looking for work in Newtown, three time zones away.

Now I do realize that &quot;not very helpful&quot; is not the same as &quot;not helpful at all&quot; -- people know people all over the place, and who&#039;s to say a junior prom date may not have connections in Newtown?  (The laws of probability make that unlikely, but not impossible, I guess;  it&#039;s never happened to me.)  The upshot is that I&#039;ve found going through my LinkedIn connections pretty depressing.  That&#039;s not hyperbole -- I actually find it depressing.  My old friends are all very far away;  even those who are eager to help can only help within a certain radius.

Given that enforced moving is one of the most consistently insane elements about the academic life -- my friends in the corporate world are always horrified when they&#039;re told how little control academics have over where they live -- I don&#039;t really think that trawling old alumni hangouts is as helpful for people like me as it was for your client.  I&#039;m an enthusiastic user of Facebook and always enjoy getting back in touch with old friends, but I think it&#039;s a poor way to find business connections -- at least if you don&#039;t want to KEEP moving to wherever the jobs are.  And that&#039;s exactly what I left the academe to avoid.

All this is a roundabout way of saying I&#039;d really like to see your blog address the side effects of constant moves -- besides the obvious, that is.  Even though I&#039;ve been living in Newtown for five years now, I feel like I&#039;m at a real disadvantage compared to Hometown and Newtown natives who stayed where they were.  I feel like a lot of career advice is pitched toward people who&#039;ve managed to build up 20 years of history in one place, and vanishingly few young academics or ex-academics have that luxury any more, if indeed they ever did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons I left the academic life was my exhaustion with constant cross-country moves.  One of the side effects of this is that I am now living in a city far from where I grew up.  I like my life here and don&#8217;t intend on moving again, but it means that reconnecting with a &#8220;junior prom date&#8221; from Hometown is not very helpful when I&#8217;m looking for work in Newtown, three time zones away.</p>
<p>Now I do realize that &#8220;not very helpful&#8221; is not the same as &#8220;not helpful at all&#8221; &#8212; people know people all over the place, and who&#8217;s to say a junior prom date may not have connections in Newtown?  (The laws of probability make that unlikely, but not impossible, I guess;  it&#8217;s never happened to me.)  The upshot is that I&#8217;ve found going through my LinkedIn connections pretty depressing.  That&#8217;s not hyperbole &#8212; I actually find it depressing.  My old friends are all very far away;  even those who are eager to help can only help within a certain radius.</p>
<p>Given that enforced moving is one of the most consistently insane elements about the academic life &#8212; my friends in the corporate world are always horrified when they&#8217;re told how little control academics have over where they live &#8212; I don&#8217;t really think that trawling old alumni hangouts is as helpful for people like me as it was for your client.  I&#8217;m an enthusiastic user of Facebook and always enjoy getting back in touch with old friends, but I think it&#8217;s a poor way to find business connections &#8212; at least if you don&#8217;t want to KEEP moving to wherever the jobs are.  And that&#8217;s exactly what I left the academe to avoid.</p>
<p>All this is a roundabout way of saying I&#8217;d really like to see your blog address the side effects of constant moves &#8212; besides the obvious, that is.  Even though I&#8217;ve been living in Newtown for five years now, I feel like I&#8217;m at a real disadvantage compared to Hometown and Newtown natives who stayed where they were.  I feel like a lot of career advice is pitched toward people who&#8217;ve managed to build up 20 years of history in one place, and vanishingly few young academics or ex-academics have that luxury any more, if indeed they ever did.</p>
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