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	<title>Comments on: Grad school: lowered expectations as Gran Torino: sinking feeling</title>
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		<title>By: Sabine Hikel</title>
		<link>http://www.leavingacademia.com/2009/07/grad-school-lowered-expectations-as-gran-torino-sinking-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabine Hikel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J, you took the words right out of my mouth. We&#039;re in total agreement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J, you took the words right out of my mouth. We&#8217;re in total agreement!</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sabine--I saw Gran Torino and felt EXACTLY like you did in watching it.  It is the most self-serving, cloying and mawkish, pseudo-anti-racism picture I&#039;ve seen in a long while.  Those Cambodian actors are mere props around which Clint tried his best to produce an &quot;award-winning&quot; performance--if that&#039;s not racist, I don&#039;t know what is.  And boring, to boot.  : D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sabine&#8211;I saw Gran Torino and felt EXACTLY like you did in watching it.  It is the most self-serving, cloying and mawkish, pseudo-anti-racism picture I&#8217;ve seen in a long while.  Those Cambodian actors are mere props around which Clint tried his best to produce an &#8220;award-winning&#8221; performance&#8211;if that&#8217;s not racist, I don&#8217;t know what is.  And boring, to boot.  : D</p>
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		<title>By: Sabine Hikel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabine Hikel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steffen: Thanks for the great link and for the snapshot into your own experience about things just not feeling right.

Heather: It&#039;s frustrating that students&#039; economic fears are still not being taken seriously--I&#039;m sure there are a lot of people who are nodding along, experiencing what you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steffen: Thanks for the great link and for the snapshot into your own experience about things just not feeling right.</p>
<p>Heather: It&#8217;s frustrating that students&#8217; economic fears are still not being taken seriously&#8211;I&#8217;m sure there are a lot of people who are nodding along, experiencing what you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t seen the movie, but understand the feeling! I get those moments of thrill mostly from conferences. I go home energized, thinking I can do this etc. Then I get home and all that enthusiasm just...disappears...as I get back into the grind of things. 

Even in this economic context some profs still find it weird I would consider not finishing. The one I find most frustrating is, &quot;oh, you&#039;ll find a job&quot; when I mention the lousy job market. How on earth do you know that, I feel like asking. Getting a job seems to be mostly luck (i.e. the right job for you comes up at the time when you are on the market). Most of my friends can&#039;t even find contract jobs at the moment. Plus these are profs who really don&#039;t know my situation, and haven&#039;t even really read any of my stuff in the last five years! So sue me if I don&#039;t have as much confidence in the job market as them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t seen the movie, but understand the feeling! I get those moments of thrill mostly from conferences. I go home energized, thinking I can do this etc. Then I get home and all that enthusiasm just&#8230;disappears&#8230;as I get back into the grind of things. </p>
<p>Even in this economic context some profs still find it weird I would consider not finishing. The one I find most frustrating is, &#8220;oh, you&#8217;ll find a job&#8221; when I mention the lousy job market. How on earth do you know that, I feel like asking. Getting a job seems to be mostly luck (i.e. the right job for you comes up at the time when you are on the market). Most of my friends can&#8217;t even find contract jobs at the moment. Plus these are profs who really don&#8217;t know my situation, and haven&#8217;t even really read any of my stuff in the last five years! So sue me if I don&#8217;t have as much confidence in the job market as them!</p>
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		<title>By: Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An addition:

Here is where I found the example with the &#039;cacophony&#039;. It is in an article in the &#039;Chronicle of Higher Education&#039;, which was written more than 10 years ago:

http://chronicle.com/jobs/news/1999/04/1999040901c.htm

The article might be interesting to read; interestingly, things were not too different a decade before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An addition:</p>
<p>Here is where I found the example with the &#8216;cacophony&#8217;. It is in an article in the &#8216;Chronicle of Higher Education&#8217;, which was written more than 10 years ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://chronicle.com/jobs/news/1999/04/1999040901c.htm" rel="nofollow">http://chronicle.com/jobs/news/1999/04/1999040901c.htm</a></p>
<p>The article might be interesting to read; interestingly, things were not too different a decade before.</p>
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		<title>By: Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Am I the only one seriously not enjoying this?”

While I was in academia, for a long time I had exactly that thought. Professors praised the &#039;thrilling&#039; research, on conferences you saw only smiling people being enthusiastic about their &#039;great results&#039;, and my parents took it for granted that I will stand in a university classroom some day, teaching students. But all the time I had a nagging feeling of &#039;something is wrong here. Deeply wrong.&#039;

I remember one evening at a conference in Spain. I and several other PhD students from different countries were in a nice taverna, enjoying a beer. (Important: No professors were nearby). Suddenly, it erupted out of everybody. &quot;What are we doing here??? What&#039;s the point of this research, of this university, of this academic life??? Why, oh why, are we doing this???&quot;. Sheer, pure frustration.

There I learned: No, you are not alone. There are a lot of other people here who do also seriously *not* enjoy this.

In another blog, I read about the experience of somebody who also left academia. The crucial point was when her professor told her &quot;Academic work should feel like music&quot;. Playing an instrument herself, she immediately thought &quot;This isn&#039;t like anything  how I understand music. If this is music, it is a very badly composed cacophony. I&#039;m outta here.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Am I the only one seriously not enjoying this?”</p>
<p>While I was in academia, for a long time I had exactly that thought. Professors praised the &#8216;thrilling&#8217; research, on conferences you saw only smiling people being enthusiastic about their &#8216;great results&#8217;, and my parents took it for granted that I will stand in a university classroom some day, teaching students. But all the time I had a nagging feeling of &#8217;something is wrong here. Deeply wrong.&#8217;</p>
<p>I remember one evening at a conference in Spain. I and several other PhD students from different countries were in a nice taverna, enjoying a beer. (Important: No professors were nearby). Suddenly, it erupted out of everybody. &#8220;What are we doing here??? What&#8217;s the point of this research, of this university, of this academic life??? Why, oh why, are we doing this???&#8221;. Sheer, pure frustration.</p>
<p>There I learned: No, you are not alone. There are a lot of other people here who do also seriously *not* enjoy this.</p>
<p>In another blog, I read about the experience of somebody who also left academia. The crucial point was when her professor told her &#8220;Academic work should feel like music&#8221;. Playing an instrument herself, she immediately thought &#8220;This isn&#8217;t like anything  how I understand music. If this is music, it is a very badly composed cacophony. I&#8217;m outta here.&#8221;</p>
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